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We're driving down from Northern Arizona, Oak Creek.

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This thing followed us and it ain't no jet, there ain't no planned or star, okay?

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I think it's land, okay?

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On the left side of the sea next to right off Bill Rose.

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If you don't want to check it out, I don't care.

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But I wouldn't call if I didn't think it was serious.

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We're not the only ones who've seen it. A couple other people do too.

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Okay, now...

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You want to know a little bit about it?

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Well, first of all, which highway were you driving on?

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Well, what's the number of that highway that we were driving on?

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89?

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Oh yeah, this is correct.

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That's okay, we want to get it right.

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Oh my gosh, Jared, you know what happened?

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It came about at least 25 feet to us, okay?

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Okay.

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And it kind of swirled and the colors of it are like green, blue and red, alright?

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Now we're in Phoenix now, okay?

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Uh-huh.

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Okay, we were driving. My husband had a spit on the gas.

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We were going about 50 miles now, alright?

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Our speedometer went all the way down to about 45 and he didn't take a spit off the gas pedal.

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I, 70.

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I, 17, there's another highway.

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You're state 17.

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Right.

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And he was driving in which direction?

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20 feet.

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No, we were going, I guess you'd say south.

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Okay.

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Going towards Phoenix.

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Okay.

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Now start right from the beginning.

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Okay.

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Just tell me everything you saw and everything that happened.

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We want to start from the beginning.

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Okay, my husband's going down to the end of the road.

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Alright, we were driving down there, state 17, okay?

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Alright.

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Alright, I just have to look up in the sky and I thought it was a star, you know?

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But that thing kept coming in closer and closer, alright?

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Okay, we started to go a little bit faster through the task areas a little bit.

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And it kind of changed colors and it had like a dome light on the bottom of it.

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Okay?

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Okay.

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Now we pulled into a gas station in Corinth, Jumps, in Arizona.

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We talked to a couple other people and they said it looked like a UFO, a mobile gas station.

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It's the only one there.

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And they said that they've been watching this thing, okay?

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It's been there for a few other nights.

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Okay.

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Alright, as we kept driving on, okay, we left the gas station.

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We're seeing the follow-up, alright?

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Okay, we got into seeing it.

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We're at another gas station.

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I'm talking to you right now, right?

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Okay.

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Okay, we've seen it and it looked like it landed.

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Okay?

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But it came about 25 feet up to us.

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This is when we was up by Oak Creek.

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And I don't know what it wants or what the heck it is.

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Okay, now when you first spotted this, where was this in relation to you as you were driving down the highway?

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It was in, I'd say, okay, I was on the passenger side.

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Right.

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I'd say, let's see, what would it be?

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What direction in the sky?

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The left.

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The left side.

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Okay.

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And then as we came in, it seemed to cut in front of us, you know?

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And then it kind of went back, it moved back and then it came in real close to us.

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Did this thing pass across the highway in front of you?

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Yes, yes, it did.

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And then as we got into seeing it, it was more or less like on the left-hand corner, which would be facing the east.

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Or facing going towards California.

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West.

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Right, west, I don't know.

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But the reason why I found out is because our speedometer went all the way down.

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And he didn't take his, and it came back up, and he didn't even take his foot off the gas pedal.

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And on a car, we just got it.

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There's nothing wrong with it.

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Okay, now, what shape did this thing have?

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Okay, it had like a spiral shape.

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I don't know if you've ever seen that before.

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It had like blue lights coming out from each side, right?

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But it would change colors, like it was rotating.

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And then it had like a light, dull thing underneath, okay?

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And then as we got into Phoenix, it turned real red.

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Okay, did this seem to follow you into Phoenix?

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Yes, that's what scared us.

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Okay, now after you got...

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What?

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Okay.

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All right, all right.

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I called up the central aviation, okay?

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See what they could do.

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And as soon as I called them up, the things seemed to go off into the sky, okay?

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Okay, which direction did it go?

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It went off into the west, further off into the west.

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And then it came back in, and it lowered down, and it looked like it was landing.

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Okay.

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I told you not to. It just barely made it came back.

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My husband is talking to me at the same time.

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Okay, now after this appeared to land, did you see it anymore?

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After that?

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No, I don't see it.

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I don't see it now, but it left to land at some place.

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How large would you say it was? Could you compare it with the other?

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Oh my God, it was huge.

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The size of...

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Geez, have you ever seen one of those big, big jets?

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Seven or seven?

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Yeah, something like that, except the lights on it was like a gigantic dome light, and they kept changing colors.

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Okay, but you could definitely see the outline of an airplane or something.

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Yes, there was no plane.

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Okay, did you hear any sound?

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No, but all I could tell you is exactly what happened to us with this thermometer.

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Okay, now did anything else unusual happen? Like, were you playing your radio in the car?

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We were playing the radio, but nothing, I didn't hear no interference.

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You know, when you're high up in the mountains, you have interference anyway.

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Okay, how about the traffic on the highway?

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There's about three or four of the cars, but when it came real close up to us, nobody was out there.

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No other cars were around.

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No, not until we got into the gas station, and as we pulled out, more traffic started coming down.

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But where we were at that time, nothing was around.

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Okay, now that would be at Cornish Junction where you stopped at the gas station.

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Okay, then after you left there and you saw it again, was there any more traffic around?

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Yeah, yeah, but it went further off into the west, so like I told you,

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it disappeared and then it came back and it looked like it landed.

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Okay, now did this appear to come down within the city?

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Let's see, just a minute.

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What would that be out that way?

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California?

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If it seems that big, okay?

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Uh-huh.

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And if it's bright enough to sky that big when we've seen it land, it could be going towards, which way is that? Vegas?

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Oh, what?

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Well, what's the closest town out there?

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I would say...

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This is the...

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...Hennings of Blythe.

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You know where Blythe is?

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Yes.

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Okay, that's what it looks like.

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But it looks close to us because it's so big.

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Okay.

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But it could be out in the desert too.

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Okay, now when this came down at its lowest point, how... or could you estimate the altitude?

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Yeah, I'd say about the lowest point that I saw, I'd say about 25 feet.

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Okay, did it illuminate the ground when it came that close?

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I couldn't see that.

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I couldn't see that, but I did see this thing come down.

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And I couldn't about that low.

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And then you could definitely see this thing go back up again.

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All right, but when I seen it the last time the thing just landed, it didn't go off into the sky.

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It was coming down in like a straight line.

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Uh-huh.

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Vertically straight down.

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Right.

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Okay.

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I've never seen it like this before.

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Now, this is weird.

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When this... this is very important.

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When this object crossed in front of you or back and forth across the highway,

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which direction were you heading then?

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We were heading south and it looked like it was going to the left.

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It would go to your left to cross the highway?

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Right.

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And then did it come back to the right?

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Right, and then as we kept on going down, we were like more or less on a straight highway, right?

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Right.

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So it was to the left side, and when we got into the gas station, it was to the right side, which is the left.

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Okay.

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And what... do you have the time that that happened?

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Yeah, just now.

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What time was that?

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Uh, what time was it?

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What time was it only left of 3?

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Uh, 7.30.

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Well, it was about 7.30, but when we just see it land or whatever you want to call it, it's about 9.35.

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Okay.

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So it's been with us for about 2.5 hours.

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And now all of a sudden it's gone and I'm talking to you.

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Now it just doesn't make no sense for us or for that thing up there.

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Okay, how's the sky conditions there tonight?

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Very clear. It's black, but it's clear.

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Okay.

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Okay, now, when you got out of the car, you didn't hear any sound at all?

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No. No, uh-uh.

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Okay.

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Do you mean when we was at the corny junction?

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Right.

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Now, uh-uh, we're very still.

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When it was kind of cold, we didn't hear nothing, but we've seen it.

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Okay, now, when it made its closest approach to you, could you estimate the distance?

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Well, like I said, about 25 feet.

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But it was, you want the altitude off the ground?

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Or how close in front of us?

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Well, both at that point.

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I'd say about 25 feet inside of us.

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And I'd say about all 55, 75 feet in the air.

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Okay, now, was this the point where the speedometer dropped?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Okay, did that ever repeat itself?

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No.

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Okay, now, is that the only unusual thing that happened?

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That's the only weird thing that happened to the speedometer.

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Did either one of you have any physical or mental phenomena of any kind take place?

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No.

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Okay, have you traveled this roadway before?

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Yeah, uh-uh.

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We go up there three times every once in a while.

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You know, like we go camping up there or something.

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Okay, would it be unusual for a lack of traffic on a main interstate highway like that?

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Yeah, it is.

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Because when we went up there today, we went up there camping, okay?

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Uh-huh.

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But the campgrounds were all closed.

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We thought since Lincoln's birthday, right, a lot of people would be going up there.

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But since the campgrounds are closed, not very many people are on the road.

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We didn't know that until we got up there.

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Okay.

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So we went up there and we had dinner and then we left, because there was no place to camp over.

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Right.

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Okay.

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Can we get back to you if we need more information?

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I'll be here if there's anything you want.

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I'm here.

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Okay, can we send you a questionnaire?

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Sure can.

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Quite detailed, and we'd sure appreciate it if you'd fill it in for us.

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This is weird, huh?

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Have you ever had this seen one of these things before?

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No, but I'll tell you something.

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Last year, you know who traveled the most in here?

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Oh, yes.

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We went up there.

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We know them, okay?

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We went up there when we out of Curiosity to talk to them about it.

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And it was the same day last year that we went up there, which is today that we saw that thing up in Heber.

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Do you know Travis Walton personally?

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No, not...

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We're all less known as an acquaintance.

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We went up to his house out of Curiosity to talk to him.

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Oh, I see.

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Okay.

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You know.

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But what's so strange about it is last year, okay,

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one year later today was when we were up there last year.

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That is a coincidence, isn't it?

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Yeah, it's weird.

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You know, I don't even know if I believe Travis or not, but after this...

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Maybe they got you lined up for the next ride.

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Don't say that.

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I don't want to go yet.

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What was your husband's first name?

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Excuse me?

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What was your husband's first name?

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Daniel.

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Daniel.

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Okay, what's your rating?

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I'm 22.

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My husband's 26.

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Okay, well, we sure appreciate this report and we'll get on it right away.

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And if we come up with any additional information, we'll get back to you and let you know.

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I'll keep going.

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Would you be available for an interview if we could send you in there?

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Sure.

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Sure, anything you want.

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Okay, where did you get our number?

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Federal Aviation gave it to me and they told me to call you up right away.

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Would that be the tower at the airport?

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Yes, I think so.

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Okay.

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You can call them back up and verify it.

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Okay, thanks again.

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Okay, bye-bye.